For a while now I’ve been using Ubuntu as my Linux distro of choice. On Monday I have to reinstall one of the Ubuntu servers at work, so I thought I’d have a look at Debian this weekend, to see if it would be better. I had a look for Debian vs Ubuntu posts online, but didn’t find anything conclusive. So I went ahead and installed it on my laptop…
I went for the DVD option, which I found on a Virgin Media mirror (my ISP, so I downloaded it at about 1.5MB/sec. :-) It took a few attempts to burn it – first my Windows laptop seems to fail to burn at anything more than 2x, then I found you have to specify some extra options to get it to burn correctly. Instead I went for the easy option and installed K3B on the Ubuntu laptop and connected my external DVD burner.
Next step: Reboot and install (after backing up my files of course :-) ). The only problem I had with the installer is that if you press Escape to go to the main menu, it seems to switch to a more advanced mode – forcing me to manually configure the partitions instead of offering to do them automatically.
OK so after installing I fire up Terminal and run gVim. It’s not installed so I do apt-get update; apt-get install gvim and find it’s not available. Now I’ve used Ubuntu for long enough to know how to fix that:
sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://debian.virginmedia.com/ etch main contrib non-free deb-src http://debian.virginmedia.com/ etch main contrib non-free
… but unlike in Ubuntu I had to figure that out for myself – it wasn’t already there, wasn’t available in Synaptic and wasn’t explicitly given on the Debian web site. Nothing I can’t handle, but annoying all the same.
I also had to take a moment to modify the sudo configuration to let me use it – it doesn’t let me by default, unlike Ubuntu. (I still prefer using sudo with the root password to su.)
Next I look for Firefox. Now that I have APT configured I can do apt-get install firefox, so I do. Then I look for Firefox on the Applications menu but can’t find it. So I type firefox and up pops Iceweasel. Wikipedia explains it’s just a rebranded Firefox… but everyone at work is already used to using Firefox!
But it’s not all bad of course. Many things are just the same in fact… and the default colours are much nicer! I think I’ll stick with Ubuntu on my computers and the XDMCP server for now, but I’d probably go for Debian on the web/database servers due to the extensive testing I’ve read about.
Comments
1. Lamby’s Blog » Blog Archive » Re. Debian vs Ubuntu
[...] Nice to see Dave checking out Debian: I also had to take a moment to modify the sudo configuration to let me use it – it doesn’t let me by default, unlike Ubuntu. (I still prefer using sudo with the root password to su.) [...]
Posted on 23rd August 2007 at 11:40am.
2. Hmmm
Interesting, though you might want to know that Debian is much better in terms of “portability”. For example can you run Ubuntu on Mac? Well, Debian is available for PPC…and Ubuntu isn’t. Also, Debian comes with lots of packages predefined, on Ubuntu you’d stick to find the proper dependencies while attempting to port a debian package into Ubuntu. And in addition, I kinda dislike the whole communistic/like idea around Ubuntu. It evolved as an attempt to launch once and forever an operating system on the purpose to be 100% FREE forever(debian includeds non-free packages as you know…).
So, overall: Debian.
Ubuntu? Maybe…but not for me, with the competition of Debian already + redhat + microsoft + solaris + apple.
Posted on 21st April 2008 at 2:24pm.
3. Dave James Miller
Hi & thanks for your comment.
I do actually use Debian on my old PPC Mac Mini now (as a server rather than a desktop). I do like Debian better as a server… but I feel Ubuntu just has the edge on user-friendliness for a desktop.
(That said, I still use Windows most of the time!)
Posted on 21st April 2008 at 7:00pm.
4. Zero
I have been using ubuntu as a server now for 3 years and LOVE IT, have NEVER had a single problem OS related
I’d like upgrade my server hardware though :P
Posted on 29th July 2008 at 11:22pm.